One of the members of the Leverage Mentorship posted a write up about his weekend and asked for feedback. I responded with some very valuable advice which is why I decided to publicly post it on the blog. The names have been changed to protect the innocent. My comments are bolded and Adam’s posts are in blockquotes.
I went out in Scottsdale on Friday. Only got one new number on Friday because I ran into a girl I’ve met before and was hanging out with her half the night. Anyhow before getting into that I’ll discuss Tanya. I met her and her cousin with my buddy Tom. At first I was talking to Julia and had better chemistry with her. I switched with Tom though because he opened them and deserved the choice of girls; he liked Julia better. Anyhow Tanya and I talked about several topics. She’s the marketing director for the company she works at and also is into reding and yoga. 2 definite pluses. Not sure how attracted she was to me though, maybe a 7. She could be a potential rotation girl but not sure it’s even worth the effort. I’m thinking of sending her a text about being present to the Moment Per Power of Now and yoga discussion. Maybe “Hey Tanya. Feeling present to the moment after getting into some fun trouble this weekend? -Adam
So you went out in Scottsdale on Friday. Only got one new number on Friday because you ran into a girl I’ve met before and was hanging out with her half the night?
That is a good way to bury a Friday night. Expedite these situations.
At first I was talking to Julia and had better chemistry with her. I switched with Tom though because he opened them and deserved the choice of girls; he liked Julia better.
No no, this is bad. I don’t care who opens. If you’re with a wing and the girl like your wing more, you get out of the way and vice versa. Women choose in these scenarios, not men. You should have stuck with Julia, you both look like scum bags for making a switch and neither of you will get anywhere. Read the Wingman Guide.
Anyhow Tanya and I talked about several topics. She’s the marketing director for the company she works at and also is into reading and yoga. 2 definite pluses.
She’s into reading and yoga. RIVETING! lol… What girl isn’t into reading and yoga? This conversation must have been painfully logical and surface level if this is all you have to report.
Here is what I advised him to text her:
Tania, I don’t remember all of our conversation on Friday, but I do remember finding out that you enjoy reading and yoga, I can safely say that your hobbies are shared with 3.49 out of 3.5 billion women on this planet. I also remember thinking you were cute. -Adam
Then I ran into this girl I met before (she had a boyfriend when we first met/ blurry pic posted) named Carlee. She’s a little older than I usually go for but has a great figure because she’s a dance teacher and we have good chemistry. After hanging out at the bar for a while I venue changed with her sober friend and my buddy Tom. We went to an after hours eatery/bar called Ricky’s tacos. I dance with Carlee and her friend and was hoping Tom could get the friend attracted. Problem is they were both up since 5:30 in the morning. After the taco spot I gave them a ride to the friend’s car. Tom got out with the friend and Carlee and I started making out in my car. I was hoping Tom could leave with the sober friend but no dice. Tentatively made plans to meet for drinks on Sunday. Ended up asking her out Sunday and no response. She is going through a breakup so maybe it’s one of those back and forth deals with her ex. – Adam
She’s a little older than I usually go for but has a great figure because she’s a dance teacher and we have good chemistry.
Slight nitpicking but this is irrelevant info that makes this post hard to read. Should write “Bumped into Marlee (picture below, 30, great body” Don’t think about chemistry, it a vague and annoying term thrown around by people who don’t understand attraction. She is either giving you love because you’re alpha, turning her on by manipulating sexual tension, mentoring her, sharing stories, etc… All I ever hear about your interactions are logical conversation followed by Borat impersonations and other silly, childish stuff. You say you can pull it off but I’m very skeptical and you get flaked on a lot so your results would say otherwise.
After hanging out at the bar for a while I venue changed with her sober friend and my buddy Tom. We went to an after hours eatery/bar called Ricky’s tacos. I dance with Carlee and her friend and was hoping Tom could get the friend attracted. Problem is they were both up since 5:30 in the morning.
Why are you dancing at a late night taco shop. Seems strange and like a poor excuse to cop a feel. I would be really annoyed if my wingman started dancing with his girl in a place where you’re not supposed to dance because it makes me either look boring if I don’t do it (I wouldn’t ever do this) and if I don’t do it, then it makes you look bad for doing it. What music are you dancing to? Are there other people dancing? After hours food is not the time for attraction, it is a time for spending a couples experience with a girl who is attracted to you and you’ve already gotten physical with. In this case, you should have either take them to a high energy place to build attraction or ditch them.
After the taco spot I gave them a ride to the friend’s car. Tom got out with the friend and Carlee and I started making out in my car. I was hoping Tom could leave with the sober friend but no dice.
This needs to be discussed. I would joke around and say “Hey I want to kidnap you from your friend to grab a nightcap with me, I promise I’ll deliver the package home safely within the hour. If they seem open to it, then discuss.
Tentatively made plans to meet for drinks on Sunday. Ended up asking her out Sunday and no response. She is going through a breakup so maybe it’s one of those back and forth deals with her ex.
Made out with you but then flaked… I have a feeling its not due to her breakup. If it were, I feel like she would have probably been honest about that.
Saturday night I went out again. Met a really awesome girl named Alexis a hot rocker girl who has a company that sells organic soap and Cleansers. She told me she works 80 hours a week. The interaction started really well and we were joking around doing Borat impressions and dancing. My buddy was hitting it off with her much older big sister (who he ended up fucking) so I was good there but their cougar friend keep fucking cockblocking. I wasn’t sure how to handle it because she kept telling Alexis “rotate” every time I was connecting with her and having fun. After each cock block Alexis’ attraction for me seemed to go lower (started at 9 and probably went down to 5 or 6 by the end of the night) because I was just letting it happen like an idiot and talking to the cock blocker. I thought if I befriended the cougar that she would cut that shit out, but it backfired because she tried to make out with me at the end of the night. I was so pissed because I spent half the night trying to overcome her cock blocks. Open to suggestions about the best way to handle that type of situation in the future.
As for Alexis I am planning on texting her Borat quotes “Hey Rocker entrepreneur girl, Great Success! Will you be my wife…How much? ;)”
I don’t really understand what happened with the cougar. Wtf does “rotate” mean? She was trying to hook up with you and get your attention. All you had to do was make a statement of intent to let her know you were into her friend.
“Hey no more rotating, I’m trying to get your friend to fall in love with me and this rotating stuff is a major cockblock. I need your wingmaning skills here.”
Being nice to her friends won’t earn their respect, just be cool and get them to like you in the same way that you would get the one you’re gunning for to like you. Being one way with your girl and another way towards her friends is a great way to get them to cockblock and not trust you.
This Borat shit makes me cringe. I know a guy who actually looks exactly like Borat, can do the voice perfectly and nails every impression and he STILL doesn’t do it because it was funny about 10 years ago. The odds of you pulling this off without looking like a dancing monkey can’t be higher than 5%. I’d be willing to wager that if you approached 50 girls where you did the Borat shit and 50 girls where do didn’t do it, you’d get at least 25% more numbers.
I would text her this:
On a scale of 1-10. 1 being super cheesy and 10 being hilarious, you seemed to enjoy the Borat crap at about an 8. Either you’re a really awesome liar or you are the only person in Arizona with a more childish sense of humor than me. If its the former, I hate you, if its the latter, I’m gonna have to put a ring on it.
After that I hit the street with another buddy of mine. I approached a bday girl named Krystal who turned 23 and got her and her friend to go to the Ricky’s Tacos. She told me her name was felish (obvious lie) so I kept calling her fellatio (I don’t even know how to spell the damn word).
She probably hears the fellatio thing 7 times a week and she knows everyone is thinking it. Avoid the cliche! “Jeez, Felish sounds like one of those names where I bet every asshole has a stupid joke for. I promise I won’t make fun of your name, but I will make fun of other assholes for making fun of it. What kind of bullshit do people say?”
When we got to my place her friend weeny to the bathroom and was vomiting for 15-20 min. I didn’t want to escalate in front of my buddy with her friend gone.
Why was your stupid buddy just sitting there? F this guy, I HATE Tom!! LOL Seriously though, this guy sucks and you either need to cut him or make him join this group so he can be a value add. So far everything you’ve said makes him a terrible cockblocking anti-wingman.
Then Krystal kept texting on her damn phone, and the mood started getting lost. When the vomiting friend came out I started making out with Krystal but it was too polite too late and they had a friend pick them up. I didn’t even get Krystal’s number because I was annoyed with her being on the phone so much.
How do you not get the number on her way out? Just sitting there with your thumb up your ass while she was texting was the worst play imaginable. All you had to do was leave the room to make yourself a drink, ice her and see if she follows. If she follows your golden, if she doesn’t, go back, grab her number and leave on your own terms. Waiting around like a puppy dog was no bueno.
In retrospect, I should have gone to my friends place that was way closer than mine. The long time it took to get to my place totally killed things.”
Why didn’t you do this?
I hope Adam learned something from this nonsense!